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Is this tool used by screen sharing only??
No, it’s really designed to be used on a computer and secondary screen,tv or projector. One of the windows has the controls and you drag the other window over to the secondary display. However, many folks have been using it through remote access softwares such as Zoom in order to accomplish distance based EMDR.
Brady,
Thank you for creating this. In my last 30 years trying to cope with childhood trauma, I’ve slowly trod through the recovery cocktail of counselors, meetings, forums, and therapists, actually finding I could do EMDR at home in recent years. I stayed home today after doing some sessions last night, and I did some today. Non-traumatic memories came, completely unexpected. I’ve only restarted with GWT this week after noticing an uncomfortable persistence to “stay in my safe spot”, which is very uncomfortable. So, I ignored it and dove in.
Thank you for creating this. I find most of my EMDR breakthroughs right on the other side of “I can’t do this!!” I’m glad I stayed home, as without GWT, I wouldn’t have. Little breakthroughs, big ones……they all matter. Thank you for making this!
So glad I could help you in some way. Look in the mirror and thank that person for doing such good work today.
Good app. price is right.
Would you consider adding a feature that would chain together several of the “Direction” options automatically in a single session? I.e., in lieu of a radio-button the selection widget would allow the user to select multiple direction options? Thereupon, the app would run X number of reps of the first selected Direction movement followed by the second and so forth. (I think it would be satisfactory for the sequence of directions to be fixed by the sequence in the menu, not the sequence in which the user chose them.)
Would you consider adding Direction options? EMDR traditionally uses just a single left-right movement. In contrast, EMI (Eye Movement Integration) uses a modest set of movements corresponding to the NLP eye movements in 8 directions: UL – UR; BL – BR UL – BL UR – BR (Upper Left to Upper Right, Bottom Left to Bottom Right, and so forth). The standard EMI suite is (I believe): 3 vertical movements UL – BL; UM – BM; and UR – BR; 3 horizontal movements; a large X from corner to corner. Sometimes these are elaborated by a pair of Xs side by side and a pair over and under.
Theoretically, I think, the maximum pairs of movements as defined by NLP should be N * (N – 1) / 2; i.e., if there are 8 points then there are 28 possible pairs. These would include movements, such as: UL – ML and ML – UR. Clearly, these two movements are subsumed in the one greater movement from UL – UR. And so forth for the top, bottom, left and right side movements. However, in making this observation (these two movements are subsumed in the one greater movement) we implicitly assume that the brain/mind “integrates” whatever is contemplated identically when the eye passes swiftly through the middle position as it would if the mind stopped in the middle position and returned to the left or right extreme position. Are we entitled to make this assumption? Or, does it make sense to include these short movements (UL – ML and ML – UR and so forth) as separate Direction options?
The figure-8 object sort of emulates these short movements; but I’m not convinced that it’s smoothed-out shape really is effective in getting the eye to track the middle position. Clearly, there is a legitimate objection to featuring 8 separate options for each of these movements such as UL – ML and ML – UR. A simple solution would be a single option to invoke the following movements:
UL – UM
UL – ML
UR – UM
UR – MR
RM – RB
RB – MB
RM – RB
RB- RM
(I hope this is the right enumeration; but you get the idea) The trick is to perform a dozen reps of one short pair and then move to another pair that isn’t a continuation of the same line. E.g., UL – UM is followed by UL – LM rather than by UM – UR. (Perhaps it doesn’t matter that pairs of repetitions don’t form a straight line. Conversely, perhaps one should not have consecutive reps include either end-points; e.g. UL – UM would better be followed by MR – MR.)
Thank you to the recent support from Michael E., RJ H., and Deborah M.
Much appreciation for the kind donations from Brant T., Keith O., & Lisa T.!
Is this tool used by screen sharing only??
No, it’s really designed to be used on a computer and secondary screen,tv or projector. One of the windows has the controls and you drag the other window over to the secondary display. However, many folks have been using it through remote access softwares such as Zoom in order to accomplish distance based EMDR.
Brady,
Thank you for creating this. In my last 30 years trying to cope with childhood trauma, I’ve slowly trod through the recovery cocktail of counselors, meetings, forums, and therapists, actually finding I could do EMDR at home in recent years. I stayed home today after doing some sessions last night, and I did some today. Non-traumatic memories came, completely unexpected. I’ve only restarted with GWT this week after noticing an uncomfortable persistence to “stay in my safe spot”, which is very uncomfortable. So, I ignored it and dove in.
Thank you for creating this. I find most of my EMDR breakthroughs right on the other side of “I can’t do this!!” I’m glad I stayed home, as without GWT, I wouldn’t have. Little breakthroughs, big ones……they all matter. Thank you for making this!
So glad I could help you in some way. Look in the mirror and thank that person for doing such good work today.
Good app. price is right.
Would you consider adding a feature that would chain together several of the “Direction” options automatically in a single session? I.e., in lieu of a radio-button the selection widget would allow the user to select multiple direction options? Thereupon, the app would run X number of reps of the first selected Direction movement followed by the second and so forth. (I think it would be satisfactory for the sequence of directions to be fixed by the sequence in the menu, not the sequence in which the user chose them.)
Would you consider adding Direction options? EMDR traditionally uses just a single left-right movement. In contrast, EMI (Eye Movement Integration) uses a modest set of movements corresponding to the NLP eye movements in 8 directions: UL – UR; BL – BR UL – BL UR – BR (Upper Left to Upper Right, Bottom Left to Bottom Right, and so forth). The standard EMI suite is (I believe): 3 vertical movements UL – BL; UM – BM; and UR – BR; 3 horizontal movements; a large X from corner to corner. Sometimes these are elaborated by a pair of Xs side by side and a pair over and under.
Theoretically, I think, the maximum pairs of movements as defined by NLP should be N * (N – 1) / 2; i.e., if there are 8 points then there are 28 possible pairs. These would include movements, such as: UL – ML and ML – UR. Clearly, these two movements are subsumed in the one greater movement from UL – UR. And so forth for the top, bottom, left and right side movements. However, in making this observation (these two movements are subsumed in the one greater movement) we implicitly assume that the brain/mind “integrates” whatever is contemplated identically when the eye passes swiftly through the middle position as it would if the mind stopped in the middle position and returned to the left or right extreme position. Are we entitled to make this assumption? Or, does it make sense to include these short movements (UL – ML and ML – UR and so forth) as separate Direction options?
The figure-8 object sort of emulates these short movements; but I’m not convinced that it’s smoothed-out shape really is effective in getting the eye to track the middle position. Clearly, there is a legitimate objection to featuring 8 separate options for each of these movements such as UL – ML and ML – UR. A simple solution would be a single option to invoke the following movements:
UL – UM
UL – ML
UR – UM
UR – MR
RM – RB
RB – MB
RM – RB
RB- RM
(I hope this is the right enumeration; but you get the idea) The trick is to perform a dozen reps of one short pair and then move to another pair that isn’t a continuation of the same line. E.g., UL – UM is followed by UL – LM rather than by UM – UR. (Perhaps it doesn’t matter that pairs of repetitions don’t form a straight line. Conversely, perhaps one should not have consecutive reps include either end-points; e.g. UL – UM would better be followed by MR – MR.)
Thank you to the recent support from Michael E., RJ H., and Deborah M.
Much appreciation for the kind donations from Brant T., Keith O., & Lisa T.!